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      #252 - 20/12/2007 08:45

January 2008's Aeroplane magazine features one of the hottest discussion topics in the world of heritage aviation with Bill Coombes and Steve Atkin debating the pros and cons of inaccurate colour schemes on restored aircraft.

We'd certainly like to hear your opinions so feel free to join in the debate with one proviso... let's not get personal. And let's respect those individuals and organisations who own or operate aircraft in liveries that may not be to our personal tastes.

I'll happily kick off the debate by recording my appreciation of the fact that I'd probably never have seen a Sea Vixen in the air had it not been for Red Bull's sponsorship. Likewise by observing that few aircraft have the ability to make members of the general public go 'wow' like rainbow-liveried Hunter G-PSST 'Miss Demeanour'.

Let's hear what you think...

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Davski
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Re: Dogfight [Re: webmaster]
      #273 - 14/01/2008 14:34

As an enthusiast it's nice to see aircraft sporting original colour schemes for sure, but if the owner or operator thinks otherwise, so be it! I see no point in getting huffy about smething which, at the end of the day, is really none of my business. I thought the Red Bull scheme on the Sea Vix was great, similarly the Miss Demeanour Hunter scheme, G-FIRE, G-HUNT and G-FURY marvellous, and as for some of the US air racing aircraft - brilliant!! So shoot me!!

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Re: Dogfight [Re: Davski]
      #283 - 01/02/2008 13:57

Having been involved in personalised warbirds I can only repeat what Dad used to say when asked why his Spit ( G-FIRE) was red. "What colour`s yours?"
Needless to say without him any many others like him these warbirds would not be kept in the flying condition they are and the single handed effort of all these individuals deserves all the support we can give to keep these fantastic machines airborne.


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Re: Dogfight [Re: CRF]
      #284 - 02/02/2008 06:14

who cares what they look like.
as long as they are safe and airworthy.


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Re: Dogfight [Re: CRF]
      #286 - 02/02/2008 14:22

I used to enjoy watching G-FIRE and I am very pleased that I have recently purchased a model of G-FURY.

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Re: Dogfight [Re: Gerry_Shimbart]
      #289 - 04/02/2008 10:20

The colour scheme article in Dogfight actually referred to inauthentic and inaccurate schemes, in particular that applied to the Commemorative Air Force's 'Wildcat' in a scheme based on a single badly printed profile view.

There was there (and here) no argument with applying an original civilian scheme, and most of us are greatly in favour of schemes such as G-FIRE etc.

However, there are issues with representing an aircraft in a travesty of a military scheme, and when it is claimed to be 'authentic' that's when it gets interesting. I'm not talking about the occasional minor error, but examples, such as this Wildcat, which do not have a single aspect of the colours within cooee of reality. This leads to statements such as "I think it's a New Zealand scheme" rather than trying to get it right, which can often be done with highly skilled free help.

Who wants a poorly executed scheme that costs thousands anyway? Make it accurate, or original, but don't use a photocopy as your prime reference!

It's a hot topic, which is why we took it to a Dogfight.

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Re: Dogfight [Re: JDK]
      #293 - 05/02/2008 14:28

Ok..my 2penoth worth.
Hi All,
Well, my opinion is that I do not mind seeing warbirds in any colour scheme. As pointed out, without some of these aircraft having sponsers, we would never have seen them fly. That would be a tragedy, and a travesty. So if it has to be painted in the scheme of the sponser for it to fly...great..so be it.
Though I would say..I much prefer to see warbirds in true war schemes. And yes, I would like the colours and markings to be as accurtae as possible..to do justise to those who flew them, if nothing else. This is especially true for "Genuine" warbirds. Those that really flew during the wars in which they took part. Seeing a warbird in her true colours fly...nothing beats that! "Miss Helen", Capt Raymond Littge's 352nd FG P-51 springs to mind( BIG 352ndFG fan). Plus its a good source of information to of us interested in such. Yes I can forgive small mistakes..no-one, or thing is perfect. And time does tell on those with the true knowledge as to the facts.
Soo...thats my word on the subject.
Yes to warbirds in ANY colour schemes. I want to see them fly. But if at all possible..authentic schemes would be nice. This goes especially for "Genuine" warbirds.

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Re: Dogfight [Re: CRIPES_A_MIGHTY]
      #336 - 14/07/2008 15:20

Hello all
Personally, I'd prefer a combat veteran to wear it actual identity, if at all possible.Naturally, that can't always be the case.Also, I dislike the hyper-clean schems on some aircraft.Aircraft aren't surgically clean, especially militay ones.
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Re: Dogfight [Re: webmaster]
      #337 - 04/08/2008 15:09

Hello All, a new face here!

Having been involved in the aircraft industry for many years I think it is eminently desirable to show aircraft in as authentic as possible schemes, where possible. Second place would be to see a well designed sponsors scheme...rather see the plane fly than not! However, I do not appreciate schemes which are caricatures...while most aircraft do have acceptable schemes for use, quite obviously some schemes are more 'desirable' than others, but even an authentic yet possibly 'drab' scheme is better than an overdone flight-of-fancy...

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